Just had a look at my AEG 151 block pictures and you're right, it has had a lot machined off the top, about two to three mm. Assuming the crank is a standard stroke 970 [61.9mm] maybe someone has built the motor with the shorter 1071/1275 conrods and then skimmed the block down to suit. I would think you would be into water pump to cylinder head fouling problems as well.
It always amazes me when people bid serious cash without knowing anything about bore/crank bearing sizes or even seeing the damage the 'spun bearing' has done!…………Assuming the bids are genuine off course:shock::shock:.
Bob
picture of 151 block with the 'lugs' Gray refers too.
What do we make of this one then. [url=http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=170274404553&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=007]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=170274404553&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=007[/url]It has a 1000cc tag, looking at the lugs at the back of the block it looks like it has had a major decking.
some tuners overbored the 970 blocks to it's limits and than destroked them to stay within class displacement specs.maybe that explains way it would becut down so much.
[b]1071bob wrote: [/b] “[b]Gray wrote: [/b] “£1700 for a 333 box then!!!!:shock:”
With a knackered first gear!!:D
I hope these bidders are around when I get some of my stuff on E-bay:D:D
” Yeaa can only add to that 😎 christmas came early this year – for the seller;)
OK now for this weeks instalment:)[url=http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=230304590776&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=013]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=230304590776&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=013[/url]could be one of the later thick flange replacements bmc did but cannot make out any of the stamps on the deck surface, looks sleeved as well, good crank by the sounds.
My old June 1963 S still had it's 185 – perfectly intact – albeit modified in 'the day'. Phil Hepworth rebuilt the engine – the water galleries had been enlarged and cleaned out.
Ran the car on super plus with led additive and octane booster. Also used 4 blade fan, 2 core super rad and 'water wetter'. Never ran hot.
I would guess that if one has made it this far – 45 years – ought to stand the chance of being a good'un.
I'd guess whether you retro fit a 185 head to a 1071 depends on how important originality to it's 1st day registered is. Given though that if the car has already lost it's 185, I'd stick a 163 on top – after all, in Oct 1963 on that would have been the dealer option for a car with a cracked 185. By 1969 when your car had then cracked 3 or 4 163's, you could at last have a proper head – 940.
They cracked in the 60's on top quality fuel so how long would one last today even with a performance additive especially as unleaded burns at a higher temperature than unleaded?
Let us not forget that BMC replaced it because it was a flawed design.
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someone has stated on the questions that 970 sometimes had a 1000 plate is this correct as ive never heard it myself?
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Yep – I've had 970 blocks with both 970 and 1000 tags
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wow learn something new:)
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Just had a look at my AEG 151 block pictures and you're right, it has had a lot machined off the top, about two to three mm. Assuming the crank is a standard stroke 970 [61.9mm] maybe someone has built the motor with the shorter 1071/1275 conrods and then skimmed the block down to suit. I would think you would be into water pump to cylinder head fouling problems as well.
It always amazes me when people bid serious cash without knowing anything about bore/crank bearing sizes or even seeing the damage the 'spun bearing' has done!…………Assuming the bids are genuine off course:shock::shock:.
Bob
picture of 151 block with the 'lugs' Gray refers too.
What do we make of this one then. [url=http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=170274404553&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=007]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=170274404553&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=007[/url]It has a 1000cc tag, looking at the lugs at the back of the block it looks like it has had a major decking.
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some tuners overbored the 970 blocks to it's limits and than destroked them to stay within class displacement specs.maybe that explains way it would becut down so much.
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the mention it might be a formula junior block, going by the flat face of the block below the oil pressure valve is right off
the flat face just isn't there
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£1700 for a 333 box then!!!!:shock:
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I guess that sums it up
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Winners identitysecret (just as well he will feel a bit silly):)
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:shock::shock::shock:
Wonder if it'll be relistedwhen the winner sees what he has bought 😕
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[b]Gray wrote: [/b] “£1700 for a 333 box then!!!!:shock:”
Which might even be cracked…
Whoopsie 😯
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a relist without the box then, like Bart said if it's even in one piece
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[b]Gray wrote: [/b] “£1700 for a 333 box then!!!!:shock:”
With a knackered first gear!!:D
I hope these bidders are around when I get some of my stuff on E-bay:D:D
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[b]1071bob wrote: [/b] “[b]Gray wrote: [/b] “£1700 for a 333 box then!!!!:shock:”
With a knackered first gear!!:D
I hope these bidders are around when I get some of my stuff on E-bay:D:D
” Yeaa can only add to that 😎 christmas came early this year – for the seller;)
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nevermind the block, I was watching the head that got sold separate:
[url]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=230304601206[/url]
this is the first time I have seen one on the bay
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OK now for this weeks instalment:)[url=http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=230304590776&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=013]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=230304590776&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=013[/url]could be one of the later thick flange replacements bmc did but cannot make out any of the stamps on the deck surface, looks sleeved as well, good crank by the sounds.
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Would say that it is a decked late 1275S block considering the AEG312 number in first picture.
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The same buyer also bought this head last year:
[img]http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/1826/1a663sf1.jpg[/img]
[img]http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/2391/1e373bs5.jpg[/img]
[img]http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/1451/1ef53ru0.jpg[/img]
[img]http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/8373/16bc3lv4.jpg[/img]
They are both 12A185 but they are a little different.
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Thats Simon Naylor – think he had a fully ready to go185 for sale at Beaulieu this year for about £700.
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My old June 1963 S still had it's 185 – perfectly intact – albeit modified in 'the day'. Phil Hepworth rebuilt the engine – the water galleries had been enlarged and cleaned out.
Ran the car on super plus with led additive and octane booster. Also used 4 blade fan, 2 core super rad and 'water wetter'. Never ran hot.
I would guess that if one has made it this far – 45 years – ought to stand the chance of being a good'un.
I'd guess whether you retro fit a 185 head to a 1071 depends on how important originality to it's 1st day registered is. Given though that if the car has already lost it's 185, I'd stick a 163 on top – after all, in Oct 1963 on that would have been the dealer option for a car with a cracked 185. By 1969 when your car had then cracked 3 or 4 163's, you could at last have a proper head – 940.
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They cracked in the 60's on top quality fuel so how long would one last today even with a performance additive especially as unleaded burns at a higher temperature than unleaded?
Let us not forget that BMC replaced it because it was a flawed design.
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Have to say that I have thought that as well.
I certainly wouldn't pay hard earnedmoney for a185 (or any head prone to problems) that has not been crack tested.
Still if it isn't any good it can always go back on eBay 😛