MK1 badges –front and rear

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  1. Hey guys,

    Could I get an idea on where to place the badges, including the S, on the front and back.

    My boot lid and bonnet are not the original items, so I have no holes to guide me. I have seen so many pics of badge placement, but some look way out of kilter.

    So, measurements and a few pics of the MORRIS COOPER ON THE REAR, including the S, and the S on the bonnet, would be really great,

    Cheers, Colin

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    Hi Colin.

    This is where mine are, but like you, the boot and bonnet are not S ones.

    Someone else drilled the holes, and they look OK to me, but anyone on the forum, feel free to tell me if you think they look wrong.

    Colin, if these look right i will measure them for you.

    J

    [IMG]http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj106/ka2s4/IMG_7820.jpg[/IMG]

    [IMG]http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj106/ka2s4/IMG_7819.jpg[/IMG]

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    I've had the same problem with 'Austin Cooper S' lettering as the holes in the boot have been closed during boot restoration.

    I've followed Parnell's book and made one template in transparent paper, scale 1:1, some simple math work andthe result is rather accurate. 'Austin Cooper S' is much more complicated than Morris Cooper S one ! Another DIY…

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    You are correct on the point that theS on the Morris boot should be slightly off the centre line of the 'Morris Cooper' script, ie slightly nearer the the s of the Morri[b]s[/b] than the C of the [b]C[/b]ooper if that makes sense ! (The S badge itself is directly below the centre of the boothandle though obviously) Mine's right, never been off, though the pic's been taken from a slight angle. I wouldn't lose sleep over it though folks ! 😛

    And yes the Austin script looks a real headache to line up in comparison !

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    Can't find a decent pic of my front, that looks right above though James,but here's my rear :shock:, original lid.

    [IMG]http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e347/porgy6/MEGatoulton06060.jpg[/IMG]

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    Hi guys,

    My boot 'S'is as Glen says, being slightly more towards the 's' in Morris and appearing pretty much like Glens. The centre of the front 'S' is pretty much on the centerline rib of the bonnet.

    Al

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    Good Grief Guys,

    It's 1.35 in the morning and yes Ihave been out partying and have guzzled more than I should but a debate about the odd centimetre or so to me is a tad anal….

    40+ year old cars, all of them teriffically maintained, lets not get too strung out on originality……..

    Enjoy the cars, vive le difference! Reality rules!!!!

    Bon Soir,

    Stuart

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    Hi Stuart,

    Ithink you could have omitted the first paragraph, it's a little obvious. 😉

    There's room here for all of us, even the guys who care about detail, so don't be acting an old fool !!!:)

    Al

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    Thanks guys, it looks a little better having the S in the middle anyway. It also looks like the S is the same measurement above the words, as the words themselves are. In other words, if the height of the words are 20mm, then the S should be 20mm above that, right ??????

    Cheers, Colin

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    Hi Colin,

    The Morris Cooper on the boot is 15 mm high and on my car, the bottom of the 'S' is about 15 mm above the 's' of Morris, so you are about right.

    Regards

    Al

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    Hi,in John Parnell´s book there is a few pics how it should look to be right( page 19), your pictures ofthe bonnet seems to be right, on theboot lid it´snot right but very close. The S seems to be in an off centre position from the MORRIS COOPER badge. Cheers

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    Hailthegreatman wrote:
    “Good Grief Guys,

    It's 1.35 in the morning and yes I have been out partying and have guzzled more than I should but a debate about…

    Stuart

    Hi Stuart, now that you have sobered up you might notice we are not having a debate – to have one of those you need two contrary points of view – but you can see we all agree on this one:dude:

    James.

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    [b]graeme1293 wrote: [/b] “Hi Colin,

    I have the orig boot for my car and could make a template and post it up to you. Like Al I think it's good to get this right – [b]BMC only put them in one place[/b].
    Graeme

    Hi Graeme,

    I'm not absolutely sure about that detail, particularly so far as the boot and 'S' badges are concerned.I have a hunch they could have beenhand drilled as required because the volume would have been quite low to have warranted jigging. Does anybody know for sure?

    Regards

    Al

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    Hi guys, I took some measurements from my rusty'64 bootlid before it went into the skip:-Distance from top edge of bootlid to centrelineof morris cooper badge is 175mm . Gap between bottom of 'S' and top of morris cooper badge is 13mm. I can't say I noticed any offset of the 'S'.

    Pictures are taken from a standard Morris boot and bonnet with factory stamped holes. regards Bob

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    Hi Colin,

    I have the orig boot for my car and could make a template and post it up to you. Like Al I think it's good to get this right – BMC only put them in one place.

    My bonnet may be orig too – I'll have a look. If not I think a mate has an orig Morris Cooper S one on his 1071.

    Cheers and good to see the resto nearly there.

    Graeme

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    On an original boot,

    The S is central, and only appears offset because gap in the MORRIS COOPER badge is offset slighty to the right, due to MORRIS being slightly longer than COOPER, on my boot they (the restorers) have centralised the gap in the script badge directly under the S badge, by offseting the script badge left slightly.

    My bonnet ones look OK, but i won't measure them for you Bob, because i know for a fact that they are not original ones.

    J

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    Ah yes there is room for all of us, but it seems that because I have an opinion that differs from yours I am to be castigated for it by being called a fool!!! Very Polite.

    Just because my opinion is not 'on message' you seek to belittle me?

    [b]I apologise if I offended anyone, was only intended as a light hearted comment!
    [/b]
    Your replies have put a smile on my face on an other wise wet and miserable Bank Holiday Monday!

    We all enjoy and have a passion for our cars…..

    Once again,

    Vive Le Difference!

    Stuart

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    Ok fellowNew Zealanders.

    My car has boot and bonnett original .contact me direct and I will help out.Even has that 'funny' two piece Morris Cooper badge!

    chris

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    [b]Alasdair Brass wrote: [/b] “[b]graeme1293 wrote: [/b] “Hi Colin,

    I have the orig boot for my car and could make a template and post it up to you. Like Al I think it's good to get this right – [b]BMC only put them in one place[/b].
    Graeme

    Hi Graeme,

    I'm not absolutely sure about that detail, particularly so far as the boot and 'S' badges are concerned.I have a hunch they could have beenhand drilled as required because the volume would have been quite low to have warranted jigging. Does anybody know for sure?

    Regards

    Al


    good question.. i wonder if that applies to the boot board brackets as well?

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    Hi Al,

    We will never know for sure if they had a jig or something, but they did make nearly 20,000 Mk1 Cooper S cars, so it would have been warranted.

    J

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    Mainly for Graeme,

    I reckon it is most likely they were hand drilled with a template, so the alignment and positioning was as good as the guy with the template.As I said earlier, there does seem to be quite a variation in the positioning of the 'S', but it is fair to saygenuine cars all seem to have the 'S' in a similar place, if not absolutely identical.

    Al

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    or you could do what the works did – put on several to be safe!

    [img]http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj270/graeme1293/CRX90B.jpg[/img]

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    Andrew1967 wrote:
    “I wonder if CRX 90B has this feature on it now. 😕 ”

    Apparently not – does that make the bootlid unoriginal?:D
    (Photo from recent auction)

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