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“You only have to Google 'Marseille crime' and you'll get over eight million results to trawl through.”
Well i just googled 'London Crime' it came up with 375 million results to trawl through.
'Paris Crime' generates 279 million results.
'Marseille Crime' only gave 694'000.
Even Birmingham came up with over 47 million.
Based on that you'd never take your car anywhere!
I'd agree though there are probably more picturesque locations nearby. Cannes, Nice, Martigues etc etc.
Whilst everyone is entitled to their opinion on the suitability of the Marseille finish or not, this event is for MCR members only and I therefore suggest that this debate should be allowed to run in the 'Members only' part of the forum. So if all subsequent posts could be made there, I think it would be best. I'm sure it may be a lively debate. Let it continue there.
There's a members only section?:confused:
I am sure that the organising team will take on board what has been said about Marseille as a over night stop and if there is any chance of cars being stolen take appropriate action to mitigate the risk.
In 2009 on the Mini 2 Ecosse event I was concerned with the security arrangements for the cars when we were in Oban of all places. Arrangements were made with a local garage to park all entrants vehicles in a locked garage, at nil additional cost to each entrant. Some people choose not to use this facility but that was their decision.
I am looking forward to a night in Marseille rather than Monte Carlo. It is not going to put me off putting in my entry and hopefully others will do likewise.
Who on earth thought Marseille was a credible, let alone good idea, as a finish location?
It might be one of the European Capitals of Culture in 2013 but it is also at this very moment, and has been for a number of years, the crime capital of France – particularly car related crime. Hands up who thinks a twenty or possibly thirty easy to break in to and/or steal old Mini Coopers won't be noticed and attract the wrong sort of attention? And Mk 1 and 2 drivers should remember that you have to lock the drivers door car from the outside – I hope they put a reminder about that in the road book before you enter the city!
I haven't been to Marseille for a number of years but when I did visit, it was the dirtiest, most run down city I had ever been to. I could not believe the state of the place given that it is France's second largest city. You only have to Google (other search engines are available) 'Marseille crime' and you'll get over eight million results to trawl through.
Having spoken to several previous Minis to Monte to crews the place is definitely making people think twice about signing up for this years 'adventure'.
What happened to the idea of a trip taking in some of the thus far unvisited classic Alpine roads and passes such as the Stelvio?
I'm not advocating a return to Monte, previous participants know what a pain that was to get in and out of.
It is a shame it couldn't have been (if we must have an semi alliterative title) 'Austins in the Alps' or 'Minis to the Mountains' instead. I'm rather of the opinion it is a lost opportunity to do something different rather than head for an over populated area.
[SIZE=3][FONT=Calibri]It was felt having headed to Monte Carlo for the last four events a change was in order.[/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE=3][FONT=Calibri]Making Marseille most southerly point on the route opened up the ability to use roads we haven't used before and to experience more varied scenery. [/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE=3][FONT=Calibri]The organisers are fully aware of the issues about security especially in the larger towns and cities we may visit. Within Marseille we are talking with the Tourist Office and a couple of the major hotels to ensure we have secured parking overnight. After all we will arrive there between 5 and 6 in the evening and leave again at 9 in the morning.[/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE=3][FONT=Calibri]I visited Marseille at the end of September; it is a cosmopolitan city with diverse cultures. Having last stayed in the centre of Marseille in the 80's I do feel it has improved quite considerably.[/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE=3][FONT=Calibri]We could have chosen another location along the coast; at least Marseille does have Mini connections in that it was the start and finish of the Alpine Rally.[/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE=3][FONT=Calibri]We have looked at going further east into Switzerland and Italy, I for one would love to explore these areas further. The issue we have there is the daily mileages, a good proportion of those responding to the questionnaire after the 2010 event said they wanted lower daily mileages on the event. To achieve this we would need much higher daily mileages and make use of a lot more motorways.[/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE=3][FONT=Calibri]With an undertaking like this there are going to be compromises about the route, where we go, how far we go and what we miss out. Apart from people wanting lower daily mileages we have to consider Hotels and can we find them on the route. Finding comfortable hotels which can accommodate all of us is not that easy in rural France and that further effects where we go.[/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE=3][FONT=Calibri]It was suggested we just used a previous Minis to Monte route again, yes we have used some roads several times but it has always been combined with something new, be it roads or locations. We have a small audience for these events; I feel they need to be different each year.[/FONT][/SIZE]
[SIZE=3][FONT=Calibri]We will be returning to Monte Carlo in 2014, to celebrate the 50th anniversary of the Mini winning the Monte Carlo Rally.[/FONT][/SIZE]
I share Robert's view that it would be superb if we could extend our trip eastwards into Switzerland, Austria and Italy. I have not as yet driven the Stelvio and it is most definitely on my 'to do' list. On the question of daily mileages I was one of those on previous events who questioned the daily mileages. The reason was that if you spend all day blasting up and down mountains, whilst exhilarating, it definitely wears you (not to mention the car)out. Perhaps this is just an age thing. However my point is travelling 300 or more miles in day on fast dual carriageways or autoroutes, enabling you to get from A to B isn't as taxing, and there are two of you, and providing you are sensible, the car will cope with it very well.
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MINITECHNIQUE SCALEXTRIC EVENT & OPEN DAY, 4th FEB 2012
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