737 ABL

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  1. Hi,

    I read an article on this car from oner of the magazines a while back, and was wondering what happened to the car? Does anyone know it where abouts?

    Thanks.

    Sean

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    Well at least it's not stuck to a red and white850 pretending to be a 'works ' car ! 😯

    Ooops, bit of politics! 😛

    I eagerly await a plethera of complaints in the next MCR mag ! 😛

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    Surely nobody's done that:shock::shock:!! Seriously though, most 'works' cars were 'Irishman's axes' even while in BMC's ownership 40 odd years ago. There are very few that have survived with their original parts reasonablyintact and probably none that have had long, hard competition careers….Even when we know the truth, it is nice to THINK that some of the surviving cars are 'ex-works' cars and carry on the spirit and tradition! In truth of course much the same applies to ordinary road going Mk1 Coopers.

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    737ABL was scrapped by a Hertfordshire scrapyard in the 1970s. It was up for sale in Motoring News for a while but when it didn't sell the owner scrapped it! He must surely have regretted this move 10 years later.

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    [b]minorparts wrote: [/b] “Surely nobody's done that:shock::shock:!! Seriously though, most 'works' cars were 'Irishman's axes' even while in BMC's ownership 40 odd years ago. There are very few that have survived with their original parts reasonablyintact and probably none that have had long, hard competition careers….Even when we know the truth, it is nice to THINK that some of the surviving cars are 'ex-works' cars and carry on the spirit and tradition! In truth of course much the same applies to ordinary road going Mk1 Coopers. ”
    Not sure if I'm correct in this but I seem to recall seeing one of the ex-works cars at Beaulieu back in the 90'sthat was in 'as written-off in a rally' condition and would not be restored as it would destroy its originality. Can't remember the number of it but sure I took some pictures of it.:?Have to search through my photo's!!

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    [b]Andrew1967 wrote: [/b] “[b]minorparts wrote: [/b] “Surely nobody's done that:shock::shock:!! Seriously though, most 'works' cars were 'Irishman's axes' even while in BMC's ownership 40 odd years ago. There are very few that have survived with their original parts reasonablyintact and probably none that have had long, hard competition careers….Even when we know the truth, it is nice to THINK that some of the surviving cars are 'ex-works' cars and carry on the spirit and tradition! In truth of course much the same applies to ordinary road going Mk1 Coopers. ”
    Not sure if I'm correct in this but I seem to recall seeing one of the ex-works cars at Beaulieu back in the 90'sthat was in 'as written-off in a rally' condition and would not be restored as it would destroy its originality. Can't remember the number of it but sure I took some pictures of it.:?Have to search through my photo's!!

    [b]You would have to be crazy!:shock:[/b]I dont think you would get many like people like that.:cool:

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    Hmm, you're right, but I can remember this particular car drawing a lot of attention. Probably just an 'ordinary' rally type Mini. 😕

    Found a couple of pictures of an unrestored car on a trailer at a different show purporting to be EJB 55C from around 1991. Island Blue paint peeling off to reveal Tartan underneath.

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    [b]Andrew1967 wrote: [/b] “Hmm, you're right, but I can remember this particular car drawing a lot of attention. Probably just an 'ordinary' rally type Mini. 😕

    Found a couple of pictures of an unrestored car on a trailer at a different show purporting to be EJB 55C from around 1991. Island Blue paint peeling off to reveal Tartan underneath.
    ” I have seen EJB ( I did not know the number ) at the time. Nice car, but I think like them all it will be a lot of work:D

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    LBL66D, pics of car on Guy Smiths worksmini.com, i have pics of the same car in a MK2 shell from the 1968 Tulip rally,another example on how they moved reg numbers around, on the car in Guys picture the door squares are yellow, as used in the 1967 monte that it crashed on, hitting the infamous boulder, so is this the car that actually hit the boulder on the monte ??!!, and did it sit for a while with its reg number on a mk2, and according to Peter Brownings works mini book it then did 7 touring car races !!

    steve

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    “737ABL was scrapped by a Hertfordshire scrapyard in the 1970s. It was up for sale in Motoring News for a while but when it didn't sell the owner scrapped it! He must surely have regretted this move 10 years later. ”
    Such a shame…do you know for certain this was the fate of the car?

    Could the reg have been moved to another car, so could still be around?:

    Number plate alledgedly last seen on the back of a VW camper in the 70s.

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    [b]1963S wrote: [/b] “I have some photos somewhere – taken at the 89IMM at Silvestone – of a Works Mini. One of the LBL cars I seem to remember.

    I think the story was that the car had been sold after coming back from the Monte and had been crashed soon after during a practice session. There wasn't a straight panel but all the bits were there; even what were alleged to be route instructions from its last works outing.

    At that stage the owner had had it for 20 odd years, kept it untouched and still ddin't know what he should do with it.

    Mind you, the photos are now almost 20 years old and I'm not toooo sure where they are.

    Cheers, Ian”
    Sounds pretty much like the same car.

    It'd be nice to see some pics somebody. Still haven't found mine 🙁

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    [b]Andrew1967 wrote: [/b] “[b]minorparts wrote: [/b]” “Surely nobody's done that:shock::shock:!! Seriously though, most 'works' cars were 'Irishman's axes' even while in BMC's ownership 40 odd years ago. There are very few that have survived with their original parts reasonablyintact and probably none that have had long, hard competition careers….Even when we know the truth, it is nice to THINK that some of the surviving cars are 'ex-works' cars and carry on the spirit and tradition! In truth of course much the same applies to ordinary road going Mk1 Coopers. ” ”
    Not sure if I'm correct in this but I seem to recall seeing one of the ex-works cars at Beaulieu back in the 90'sthat was in 'as written-off in a rally' condition and would not be restored as it would destroy its originality. Can't remember the number of it but sure I took some pictures of it.:?Have to search through my photo's!!

    ” “LBL666D?

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    That's the kiddie 😀

    So, could this be the most 'original'ex-Works car out there………….light's blue touch paper and run for cover 😛

    Will still try to find my pics and post them

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    I have some photos somewhere – taken at the 89IMM at Silvestone – of a Works Mini. One of the LBL cars I seem to remember.

    I think the story was that the car had been sold after coming back from the Monte and had been crashed soon after during a practice session. There wasn't a straight panel but all the bits were there; even what were alleged to be route instructions from its last works outing.

    At that stage the owner had had it for 20 odd years, kept it untouched and still ddin't know what he should do with it.

    Mind you, the photos are now almost 20 years old and I'm not toooo sure where they are.

    Cheers, Ian

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    Yeh – soon get that fixed up! At least it doesn't seem to be too rusty!

    If BMC had a Mk2 with the same registration, my guess is that they sold the damaged one without any ID which was common BMC practice at the time, and built up a 'new' car with the old ID. I'm guessing that the owner of the damaged car doesn't have the ID for it hence not having done anything with it. If I'm right, it would be an interesting case if he applied for a V5 wouldn't it! It does appear (from the ride height) to have an engine. BMC often removed them, selling the cars as a rolling shell.

    When I last had a Cooper S on the road in the late 1970s/early 80s I was told that a works car existed locally (we're in the Oxford area, so there was lots of stuff around at one time…) that had returned from a rally, was sold immediately and had been in storage ever since….apparantly in untouched condition… I did try to find out but never discovered which car it was , where exactly it was, who owned it, or what happened to it…..I'm not sure if it was damaged or not but it was an intriguing tale, and probably largely true – from a reliable source sworn to secrecy. It was some time ago, but perhaps it's still out there……..It is amazing what IS still about!

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    737 ABL 997 works mini in the hands of Pat Moss/Ann Wisdom achieved the first works victory for the mini, 1st overall/1st in class Tulip rally 1962 with significant wins to follow until the end of 1962 when Pat left abingdon. the last time Pat saw 737 ABL, it was parked at the side of a north London street in 1964 no further information

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    This Mini has its own page on Guy Smith's website.

    Click on 'Go to the cars' on the left, then down to LBL 66D.

    [url]http://www.smithmaps.fsnet.co.uk/worksmini.htm[/url]

    Cool car. 😎

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