1990 ROVER COOPER JCG S CONVERSHION (Help Please) (7 replies)
I am not sure I am writing in the right place but I believe I have JCG car number 34 but I am not too sure on how the number system worked for JCG. Anyway my
Great project and it looks like you are well advanced. But the question of the JCG numbering system............. Mmmmmmmm If you read back through this section of the forum and John Parnells monthly spiel in Cooperworld, you'll find that there's no real logic or set format for them - or the specs! Or if there is it's running in a parallel universe somewhere. Made worse by the fact that the body plates are/were being reproduced and............ Well, all that that leads on to. I'm normally one of the worlds real optomist but not with this numbering system I fear
Peter, whats a convershion.....
Unfortunately these projects never go as quickly as one would hope! I am ashamed to say that my JCG-S (Sally) is almost in the same state as when I bought her from Tony, some years back, I know shame on me. The problem being that since buying Sally I bought (was sorely temped and could not resist) a 64/5 1071 Cooper S South African Circuit race car, which I thought would be a straight forward resto job! Stupid me these things are never straight forwardâ€¦ [URL]http://forum.minicooper.org/forum/ex-works/racing-cars/169223-esas-eli-s-south-african-s[/URL]
Anyway back to Sally The S, I am hoping to start the painful task of the body work at some point this year, which I am bracing myself for, as I know the 1990's cars were worse than the 1960's cars for the dreaded tin worm!
Like you I was rather disappointed to recently read in the MCR mag that there is a company now producing the JCG kits again, which sadly includes identification tags/badges, which all seems a bit of a shame. However, I am optimistic that there will/must be some identifying features on the early and original cars/kits that helps identify them from these newer kits?
All the best
PS A bit cheeky but I don't suppose you have any S displacer's left from you police MK2 S? I am getting desperate, as I am due to take my SA car to M2M but unfortunately during the final parts of the resto I have just found out that the flexible pipes from three of the displacer's are leaking!!
The GOOD news about the leaky displacers is that there is someone out there in forumland wot can successfully re-hose needy displacers. I stupidly binned the old displacers when I restored my S and just put on it the only displacers that were still available at the time. Bog standards!
What's a convershion........... Er........ don't know but there must be a joke there somewhere - about a conversation over a cushion!
The JCG conversions don't seem to even agree with the stated JCG figures as I recall reading........ Maybe that's something to do with the availability of parts too...... But who knows?
When I had my 1999 Mini breathed on by the J Cooper people I was given a data sheet specifying plug gaps, valve clearances etc etc. This was sealed in a plastic material. I do not recall seeing a number on it and he more I think on it the more I am sure it was not so numbered. However, it must have been one of the last few such conversions done as the works closed shortly afterwards. I met Mr Cooper on an Italian Job and he asked me how my car was going. I said that it puffed a bit on hills and he invited me to bring it to his people to have work done to make it go a bit better. He kindly gave me an OAP discount. It now resides with Geoff Giles my Co-driver in Henley while I tool around in a BMW MINI Countryman. The dog settles in the rear where the spare wheel might be if I had one.
I have an RSP with S conversion number 40 done January 1991 by JCG. I have JCG receipts, certificate and plate. I have been trying to find out as much as I can about the S conversions. Unfortunately the original records have been lost so there is no known way of tracing the numbers, at least not for the early ones. There is a rumour that Mike Raven had digital records of the late conversions but I am not sure if anyone knows how to contact him.
Recently I spoke to Tony Franks, who was in charge of John Cooper's workshop and who carried out the conversion on John Cooper's own RSP. He explained that many of the conversion kits were sent to Rover dealers where cars could be converted under Rover warranty. The numbering system therefore had to refer to the kit rather than the conversion sequence. That explains why they are all out of order. I spoke to another owner recently who has a later conversion number but with an earlier receipt then mine.
I wouldn't worry about the new JCG kits being confused with the originals. It's Mike Cooper who has initiated the enterprise and he is not only deliberately making them a bit different so there is no confusion but the numbering system will also be different.